Noel Gallagher vs Sleaford Mods

[Tuckerman]

www.nme.com/news/noel-gallagher/82244


Noel Gallagher has responded to Sleaford Mods' claims he has "blood on his hands" following the success of Oasis by comparing the Nottingham duo to the Viz cartoon character Brown Bottle and declaring "I've got blood on my hands and fucking champagne in the bath".



In the new issue of NME, which is on newsstands now and available digitally, Gallagher was asked whether Sleaford Mods were an answer to the lack of "working class rage" in British music that the former Oasis man had previously bemoaned.



"They're like fucking Brown Bottle in Viz," he said. "There's no joy in that, is there? It's just two guys, one clearly mentally ill, who's just shouting like Brown Bottle about fucking cider and fucking shit chicken. Yeah, that would've been fun wouldn't it, at Knebworth. 'Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and while we're all here', while all the people at the back are on acid and E, 'round of applause for the miners, wahey'. Fuck off."



He continued: "Oasis were raging, but we were raging joy and the sun was out in the songs, if you can't see the rage and the yearning to better yourself in rock 'n' roll style you're dead to me. And protest songs: fucking bollocks. 'Cigarettes & Alcohol' is a protest song, and the message in that is 'Fuck your recession and fuck you and your government, we’re gonna have a great time.'"



Moving onto Sleaford Mods' comments that he had "blood on his hands" for making things too retro, Gallagher said: "Yeah. Well tell them from me that I’ve got blood on my hands and fucking champagne in the bath."

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There's no joy in that, is there? It's just two guys, one clearly mentally ill,

[Columbia_rocks_man]

Noel is RATTLED.

Clearly 1-0 to the Mods.

[Benoît Assou-Ekotto]

Last time he wouldn't have said a word tbf. Feels like he knows he's gonna be fine so can be less press savvy (and a bit of a cunt). Fingers crossed the album isn't shit.

[Columbia_rocks_man]

I think that retro tag really riles him. Especially when in his mind he's now pushing the boundaries by using disco beats.

[Belligerent Hype Man]

Can't wait for Jason to rip Noel a new one in response.

[eddiemurphy]

get chunkymark on the stage and they might have something going for em.

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Noel on five live: “I’m not sure there’s too many posh people in the arts - there’s just not enough working class people. I’m not an economic brain box but the working class don’t seem to have much of a voice or a presence in the charts or in the magazines of late, wouldn’t you agree? And the working class people that there are in there are just idiots.”

When asked whether there were any working class artists he had in mind when he said that Noel immediately replied: “I can think of Sleaford Mods for one, they are an embarrassment. And there’s some very tax efficient working class people knocking about isn’t there?”


Sleaford Mods facebook:

These excessively rich or bought 'entertainers' currently on this compassion angle for the lower classes is beyond laughable but also concerning because you are gonna always get some poor cunt who lives in Rugby with a feather cut waving a Man City flag ( no offence to city fans) and soaking it all in if ya know what I mean. Bands like Kasabian playing the class card last week? When did they ever rally against the obvious nightmare of the last 30 odd fucking years? It's a little bit convenient to be showing sympathy now isn't it Mr Deep Purple?

And what example is the Brit Awards setting to working class kids by not having That tits idea of Rock n Roll on the fucker? What Rock n Roll? The same Rock n Roll that's been squeaking away in the corner of our fucking hamster cages for nearly 50 years? Tricking the imprisoned into believing they can set themselves free by using it. It's about as useful to the kid on the street as Job Seekers fucking Allowance. These people are looking out for themselves and nothing more, believing Rock n Roll to be the instrument of social mobility of gaining excessive wage packets, morose clique'd voices from The end of the century, you thick cunts, dinosaurs before their 40th fucking birthdays.

And Gallagher, who last night committed suicide on 5 live, his grasp on anything, let alone Social inequality, is clearly not there and any attempt to discuss this by him and people like him is deeply, deeply offensive. Flippant comments about rehearsal rooms being sold off for posh restaurants, I can't even believe he got fucking air time with that shit it's fucking disgusting. He's fucked off cos we've helped made him look naff, lazy and the fucking apologist that he is, and why not? Why in all this shit and consistently hung wallpaper of mind numbing entertainment carcasses should ya keep quiet for fucks sake. To keep lining the pockets of cunts like Noel who trade so cleverly on historical accomplishment? The reception to his current musical output not to mention his true beliefs will get worse for him and people like him. Fucking jokers.

[eddiemurphy]

jake bugg>>>>>>>>>sleaford mods.

working class nottingham has already spoken tbh.

[Mr David]

Noel has donated £10,000 to UKIP

[srk]

Feb 3, 2015 17:52:08 GMT Fuzzy Dunlop said:

Sleaford Mods facebook:

These excessively rich or bought 'entertainers' currently on this compassion angle for the lower classes is beyond laughable but also concerning because you are gonna always get some poor cunt who lives in Rugby with a feather cut waving a Man City flag ( no offence to city fans) and soaking it all in if ya know what I mean. Bands like Kasabian playing the class card last week? When did they ever rally against the obvious nightmare of the last 30 odd fucking years? It's a little bit convenient to be showing sympathy now isn't it Mr Deep Purple?

And what example is the Brit Awards setting to working class kids by not having That tits idea of Rock n Roll on the fucker? What Rock n Roll? The same Rock n Roll that's been squeaking away in the corner of our fucking hamster cages for nearly 50 years? Tricking the imprisoned into believing they can set themselves free by using it. It's about as useful to the kid on the street as Job Seekers fucking Allowance. These people are looking out for themselves and nothing more, believing Rock n Roll to be the instrument of social mobility of gaining excessive wage packets, morose clique'd voices from The end of the century, you thick cunts, dinosaurs before their 40th fucking birthdays.

And Gallagher, who last night committed suicide on 5 live, his grasp on anything, let alone Social inequality, is clearly not there and any attempt to discuss this by him and people like him is deeply, deeply offensive. Flippant comments about rehearsal rooms being sold off for posh restaurants, I can't even believe he got fucking air time with that shit it's fucking disgusting. He's fucked off cos we've helped made him look naff, lazy and the fucking apologist that he is, and why not? Why in all this shit and consistently hung wallpaper of mind numbing entertainment carcasses should ya keep quiet for fucks sake. To keep lining the pockets of cunts like Noel who trade so cleverly on historical accomplishment? The reception to his current musical output not to mention his true beliefs will get worse for him and people like him. Fucking jokers.

I...uhh....what? Is that even English?

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lol noel destroys the mongo

[Mr David]

It's 20+ years since Noel had any experience of what it is to be working class, he's clearly forgot by now, the replies by Sleaford Mods in the facebook thread of this are even more forensic, Noel usually destroys clueless mongs as he has a bit of wit about him, but he's bitten off more he can chew with this fella. Really looking forward to his continued destruction.

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

thequietus.com/articles/17242-noel-gallagher-high-flying-birds-interview

You always seem to dismiss politics, something that Sleaford Mods have criticised you for. You recently, and memorably, described them as like "Brown Bottle in Viz...shouting about fucking cider and fucking shit chicken". Did you hear about their Facebook post about your comments?

NG: [raises eyebrows] Facebook post?

Yes, did you read their response?

NG:[long pause] [sighs] That just sums it all up. They posted on their Facebook. Just exactly that. Post what on their Facebook? When will they meet me in the fucking street?

You didn't know what they said.

NG:Well, exactly, you know. Post it on my...fucking tweeted it. Go on, anyway.

The post is titled, "Norman Tebbit wrote Definitely Maybe."

NG: Right… well, it definitely was a reaction to the Tories, yes, for sure.

In an interview a few years ago, you said Margaret Thatcher had been good for music.

NG: Yeah, it was wonderful the way the Daily Mail twisted that. If you think of the golden age of modern pop music, we were under the rule of the Conservatives, and my point was, you knew where you stood with Thatcher. She was fucking you in the arse, and she was quite fucking brutal about it, so we were like, "OK, she's the fucking enemy". Art was better under Thatcher, not because of Thatcher but in spite of Margaret Thatcher. I just happened to say that to a Daily Mail journalist, who just fucking span it. Now politics is mirroring society: it's bland. There's nothing. Who are these two bozos that are standing for election in a couple of months? They're career politicians. They don't stand for anything.

The Sleaford Mods post continues [reads]: "These excessively rich or bought 'entertainers' currently on this compassion angle for the lower classes is beyond laughable but also concerning because you are gonna always get some poor cunt who lives in Rugby with a feather cut waving a Man City flag (no offence to city fans) and soaking it all in if ya know what I mean."

NG: [looks agog] What?

They go on to criticise people that believe "rock n Roll [sic] to be the instrument of social mobility"...and say the following about you: "Gallagher, who last night committed suicide on 5 live, his grasp on anything, let alone social inequality, is clearly not there and any attempt to discuss this by him and people like him is deeply, deeply offensive."

NG: [shakes head] And?

I think they're saying what you're saying doesn't solve anything.

NG: It doesn't solve anything? [leans forward] I'm not a politician. I'm a rock star. I think the working classes don't have a voice: that's a fact. That's a fact. You know where the working classes have a voice now? On [the] X-Factor. That's where it's ended up, and that's what the working classes aspire to now, is to be on X-Factor.

But that's the idea of social mobility through musical talent – something they say is bullshit.

NG: Yeah, and I'm not knocking it. It's a good TV show, my daughter enjoys watching it and we have a shared experience watching it, althougg it doesn't mean anything – and it won't mean anything to her when she's 23, I can assure you of that. My point is, there is a debate going on at the minute, which I was asked about, and I don't think there's too many posh people in the arts. I just think there's not enough working class people in the charts. I only look at music; I don't give a fuck about what's going on over there. That doesn't concern me. I was brought up reading Smash Hits and the NME and Melody Maker and Sounds, and what was in the charts, from the Smiths and the Jam and the Specials. When I listen to the radio now, I don't hear the voice of the working class. I don't hear a Richard Ashcroft or a Bobby Gillespie or a Liam.

But there are working-class kids. There are rappers, young kids making electronic music…

NG: Yeah, I'm not talking about that, because I'm not a hip hop urban dude as you might have worked out [touches jacket], although I do like some of that music. I'm not an expert on that field. To say "it doesn't solve anything" – of course it doesn't. It's an opinion. We're all entitled to opinions, I do believe.

They think bands should make an impact politically because they're in a position to have a voice – you're saying that's the job for somebody else, are you? They say "we've made him look naff and lazy."

NG: What I'd say to that is, write a fucking decent chorus. The end.

Do you think musicians shouldn't talk about politics?

NG: I'm not interested.

So if musicians talk about politics, is that OK?

NG: Look – Billy Bragg never interested me in the slightest. It never interested me. Morrissey interested me more, because when you were listening to his music, he wasn't beating you over the head with his political views.

Apart from…

NG: [interrupts] OK, apart from Meat Is Murder.

Which isn't exactly their best song.

NG: I think it's their best album. But I'm not a vegetarian, if that's what you mean. They're not beating you over the head with their political views. You can make your own mind up, can't you?

Morrissey did talk about politics, though. The Queen Is Dead, the fact that it was going to be called Margaret On A Guillotine.

NG: Yes, but it wasn't spitting. It wasn't gobbing at you in the face. It wasn't … Stalinist. You know, The Queen Is Dead – is it about the Queen? Or could it be about something else, a queen? And I don't recall reading an interview where Morrissey was actually fucking preaching. He was hilarious in his interviews. And all the working class bands that came up in the '80s and the '90s, they had fucking great tunes, and that's the bottom line. You think of 'Labour Of Love' by Hue and Cry, a very deeply political fucking song, you'll never work out it's about politics, because of that great fucking chorus. It's only when you got older, you listen to it, and you think, "Wow, fucking hell, the dole, remember that?" Yeah, spitting's not good. Nothing will ever make a difference that way.

Could it before?

NG: It isn't something that inspires me greatly, protest music. I do like Bob Dylan, though. You know, [brushes hands] if Sleaford Mods ever ever ever get their headline slot at Glastonbury on the Saturday night, and it's going out live on the television, then maybe. Until then, not for me.

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Do you dance in nightclubs?

NG: I walk about rhythmically and try to avoid eye contact with people with feather cuts and City scarves in case I fucking ruin their lives.

[Columbia_rocks_man]

Noel's been owned. He knows it.

[eddiemurphy]

i was looking thru the charts the other day.

royal blood are the only rock band in the top 25.

and they were at 25.

does make for depressing viewing in general.

the amount of various artists compilations spoke for itself.

[monkeytennis]

Feb 17, 2015 11:57:21 GMT eddiemurphy said:

i was looking thru the charts the other day.

there's your problem

[monkeytennis]

well, apart from all the others

[eddiemurphy]

Feb 17, 2015 12:07:03 GMT monkeytennis said:

Feb 17, 2015 11:57:21 GMT eddiemurphy said:

i was looking thru the charts the other day.

there's your problem

i know how much u like ya chart music.

beyonce fanboy over here.

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facepalm.